Spricht der Herr aber also; Manuscript copy; TVWV 1:1394; D-F Ms.Ff.Mus. 1396

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Title and content description

Composer/Author
Person
Telemann, Georg Philipp (1681-1767)
[Ascertained]
Source type
Manuscript copy
Content type
Notated music
Dates
1717-1731 (1717c-1731)
Standardized title
Spricht der Herr aber also
Title on source
[org, 1st set:] Am 3 3 post Epiph. | Spricht der Herr aber also: Ich habe nicht Lust pp. | C. A. T. B. | 2 Violini. | 2 Hautbois se piace. | 1 Viola. | Violoncello. | et | Organo. | di | Telemann. | [2nd set:] Dom: 3. post Epiphan. | Spricht der Herr aber also: Ich habe | nicht Lust zu dir p | à | 2. Violin. | 2. Hautb. | 1. Viola | Canto | Alto | Tenore | Basso | Violoncello | Violono | Bassono | ed | Telemann
Additional title
Concertenjahrgang (Excerpts)
Scoring summary
V (4), orch, org
Total scoring
S (1), A (1), T (1), B (1), vl (2), vla (1), vlc (1), ob (2), fag (1), org (1)
Language of text
German
RISM ID number
sources/450004681
Subject headings
Cantatas
Sacred songs

Incipits

1.1.1 Grave

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Title of movement, tempo
Grave
Clef
G-2 (treble clef)
Time signature
c
Voice/instrument
vl 1
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1.1.2 Grave

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Title of movement, tempo
Grave
Text incipit
Spricht der Herr aber also
Clef
C-1
Time signature
6/8
Voice/instrument
S
Incipit options

1.2.1

Text incipit
Was Gott will soll der Segen sein

1.3.1

Text incipit
Wir bitten öfters was

1.4.1

Text incipit
Wie Gott will soll die Losung sein

1.5.1

Text incipit
Die Not sei noch so groß

1.6.1

Text incipit
Wenn Gott will soll das Siegel sein

1.7.1 Choral.

Title of movement, tempo
Choral.
Text incipit
Herr Jesu Christ einiger Trost

Material description

Group 01

Source type
Manuscript copy
Content type
Notated music
Date
1717-1731 (1717c-1731)
Format, extent
11 parts
Parts held and extent
S, A, T, B, vl 1, 2, vla, vlc, org, ob 1, 2: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1f.
Dimensions
20,5 x 33,5 cm
Copyist
Person
Copyist of Frankfurt 60b (18.sc)
[Ascertained]

Group 02

Source type
Manuscript copy
Content type
Notated music
Format, extent
part
Parts held and extent
org: 2f.
Copyist
Person
Copyist 88

Group 03

Source type
Manuscript copy
Content type
Notated music
Format, extent
3 parts
Parts held and extent
ob 1 and 2, calcedon (2x): 1, 1, 1f.
Copyist
Person
Seibert, Johann Conrad (1711-1792)

Group 04

Source type
Manuscript copy
Content type
Notated music
Date
1717-1731 (1717c-1731)
Format, extent
9 parts
Parts held and extent
T, B, vl 1, 2, vla, vlne, org, ob 1, 2: 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1f.
Dimensions
22 x 36 cm
General note
S, A missing
Copyist
Person
Beck, Heinrich Valentin (1698-1758)

Relations

Lyricist
Person
Neumeister, Erdmann (1671-1756)
[Ascertained]

References and notes

General note
Stimmen differieren in den Tonarten
Note on performance
Performance date: 1717 Frankfurt am Main
Performance date: 1720 Frankfurt am Main
Performance date: 1731 Frankfurt am Main
Catalog of works
Menke, Werner. Thematisches Verzeichnis der Vokalwerke von Georg Philipp Telemann (2., erweiterte Auflage). 1988, 1995. Frankfurt am Main (TVWV). 1:1394.
Bibliographic reference
Schlichte-Bierbaum, Joachim. Thematischer Katalog der kirchlichen Musikhandschriften des 17. und 18. Jahrhunderts (Signaturengruppe Ms.Ff.Mus.). Kataloge der Stadt- und Universitätsbibliothek Frankfurt am Main, 1979. (SchlichteF 1979). p.341.
Liturgical festivals
Epiphania Domini, Dominica III.

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Universitätsbibliothek Johann Christian Senckenberg. Abteilung Musik und Theater, Frankfurt am Main (D-F)

Shelfmark
Ms.Ff.Mus. 1396
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